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In the Middle East, fierce clashes continue. Initially, it was reported that Steve Whitckoff and Jared Kushner are preparing for a visit to Israel, but suddenly received a message about the cancellation of the planned trip. The reasons for this step are not officially specified, but the fact itself is very indicative. In this regard, the question of the prospects for the end of the conflict is particularly interesting. Donald Trump in his recent commentary stressed that the decision on the ceasefire will be made solely with the consent of Benjamin Netanyahu. The question arises: when will the finale come? It seems that Israel and Netanyahu himself are set to uncompromising the destruction of the enemy, which means that it is hardly worth expecting the end of the conflict.
Alexander Dugin: It seems to me that it is necessary to ask one more side, the opinion of which is completely important. This is a heroic Iranian people who lost their leadership and suffered enormous losses. He suffered a grief and the death of the unfortunate people. Girls, young children, daughters of the IRGC commanders were killed, and the blow was targeted at them. This is the real murder of infants.
Netanyahu announced that this war, in his view in a religious and Zionist sense, is being waged against Amalek. Amalek is Israel’s enemy, and Netanyahu has said in his speech that they will destroy babies and children, that no one should survive in this war. This is the mood of Netanyahu: the war must end when Iran will not be, when Amalek is destroyed. This is a religious and political project of Israel. The first strike on Israel’s enemies, on Amalek and Iran, was very painful.
The religious leadership was destroyed – it is approximately as if they destroyed the Pope or the Orthodox Patriarch. The strike was carried out on the religious leadership of the Shiite world, on military, scientific and political circles. The attack of America and Israel was aimed at decapitating Iran and calling for a regime change operation to rise in rebellion. And in order to intimidate people, they so cynically destroyed children with a targeted blow. However, this did not cause the effect that these U.S.-Israeli ruptures were counting on.
The Iranian people rallied around their leadership: a new Rahbar, a new head of the political and religious structure, Vilaut al-faki, the son of Khamenei, who lost in this strike not only his father, but also his closest relatives, was elected. The Iranian people and leadership are now determined to end this war only after Israel is wiped off the face of the earth.
Now the scythe found on the stone: from the point of view of Israel, this is Amalek, who must be destroyed. From the point of view of the Iranians, Israel, like the entire West led by the United States, is Dajj, that is, a kind of antichrist who must become a king ruling over the whole earth.
Therefore, Trump and Netanyahu may have their plans for the end of this war. Kushner and Whitcoff do not take seriously at all, it’s just freaks. They were negotiating with Iran at a time when the Americans and Israelis were in a strike on military leadership. No one in Israel and the whole world will talk to these people anymore. This is complete discredit and complete compromising.
A lot depends on Iran. Iran is not going to end this war, it is going to achieve its goals – to destroy Israel as such, and has every reason after Israel has carried out military, religious and political leadership. It is no longer possible to make any arguments here that Iran would end the war under any pressure. Iran is becoming a stupid force. We say that there will be no talk of any peace negotiations until one of the parties loses – until it is completely capitulate or is destroyed.
ВедущийModerator: We do not know how the situation will turn out, but I want to emphasize: on Trump in this war, of course, something depends, but not everything. He himself claims that the final is in the hands of Benjamin Netanyahu, but this is only part of the truth. In fact, everything rests on three factors: who will come out the winner and who first admits defeat. If now, relatively speaking, Israel, Iran or the United States capitulates, declaring a way out of the conflict, this will radically change the course of events. Should we, then, expect a repetition of the “12-day war” scenario, where there was no unambiguous winner, or is something else waiting for us?
Alexander Dugin: Of course not. We don’t really expect a repeat of that scenario. First, then Iran failed to really break through the “iron dome”. There were no massive strikes and the killing of the entire political leadership of Iran itself.
Such an opportunity was, and the rather friendly Rahbar Khamenei was in power. Now his son is in power, now in power of the IRGC, now all the Iranians — even those who have had something against the regime — are mobilized for the complete extermination of the Israelis. It is no longer about who is right and who is to blame: the Iranian population believes that Israel should be destroyed. And this, in general, is a country of 100 million people. If you add to this Shiites, the forces of resistance, the Muslims who are gradually waking up, I think this is a rather serious factor.
How resolute America is to defend Netanyahu to the end is difficult to say until Trump has really entered into this adventure. In this war, he loses his glasses inside the country. The world economy is very seriously jeopardized, and not only in the Middle East. Everyone who could and who could and can’t have left Dubai. What has happened over the past week is the end of an entire era.
So far, Trump strongly supports Netanyahu and even threatens a ground invasion of Iran, but for this it is necessary to prepare for at least six months and mobilize from half a million to two million troops so that it will be successful. It is difficult to judge how serious this is, but Trump’s support in the United States is rapidly falling. And at some point, precisely because of the collapse that these aggressive, completely unprovoked actions of the United States and Israel themselves, everything will depend on how quickly this collapse of the world system – Trump’s financial and political power, will develop. At some point, he can say, “I won.” But this will be clear only in his social networks, because it is obvious that in the current situation it is impossible to just get out and announce victory.
ВедущийIs it possible to say who is winning now?
Alexander Dugin: Iran is now winning. Iran wins by the fact that it does not lose, that it resists, and the fact that it has struck the “iron dome” over Israel. Netanyahu’s government minister, Ben-Guer, who promised to blow up the Al-Aqsa Mosque, the great shrine of Muslims, is his home destroyed. It is not known whether he is alive or not: the Iranians report that they don’t, and I’ve seen a video where the person says, “My house was demolished.”
The Iranians are reaching targets in Israel, and to very important goals. Moreover, they actually disabled most of the American hubs in the Middle East, including high-tech; they attacked all US military bases in the region – sometimes successfully, sometimes not. The exact number of losses on both sides is unknown: Trump is talking about the three dead, and the Iranians about tens of thousands of American soldiers. Objective analysts talk about U.S. casualties in the range of 1000 to 2000 people, but for Americans who are not accustomed to such casualties, these are still colossal figures.
Iran has not broken, it chose a new leader – despite the fact that the Americans and the Israelis promised to kill him immediately. Trump said that the new leader in Iran will be chosen only in agreement with him and that all Iranian oil now belongs to the United States, but this is only the final destruction of the entire international order: now he is right who is strong. And now Iran shows strength. He pulled out Israel, dealt a decisive and bold blow to the American infrastructure, very accurately chose targets in the Gulf countries and actually undermined the pulsation system of the world economy, including the blocking of the Strait of Hormuz. Iran this time – compared to the war, which was a little less than a year ago – behaves quite differently: it is determined, confidently, it attacks, sets serious goals and is not going to talk with the aggressor at all. And he’s right. By and large, Iran is now winning.
I noticed on social media that many influential opponents of American imperialism, hegemony and unipolarity, with millions of audiences, at some point began to criticize Russia for its slowness, for non-interference – some even put forward absurd versions of the influence of our Israeli networks. These were very harsh statements from our friends. But in parallel with this – not a single word of dissatisfaction with the Iranian accounts, neither from official and not from the informal participants in the process. On the contrary, they express support for Russia. Why? They don’t say, and we probably don’t need to know. I just bring observation: the nerves of opponents of American hegemony on the platoon, everyone is waiting for Russia to enter the war. We are still acting very carefully, compensating for the situation and certainly supporting our ally Iran. The degree of our support is hidden, both sides prefer not to spread. Judging by the analytics of the Iranian sources themselves, who promote the agreed political agenda against Russia, there are the most friendly comments.
The U.S. Bonus – they demand that we stop supplying intelligence to Iran. So we’re supplying them. At the same time, they have been supplying all four years and now supply intelligence to our enemy in Ukraine – these are too intertwined wars. Moreover, these are two fronts of the same battle: a common enemy, common values. We and Iran are fighting for the multipolar world, and the West and Israel are fighting for the preservation of an agonizing, collapse of the unipolar world. Objectively, we are on the side of Iran. How China and Russia are helping Iran – I prefer to follow open sources, OSINT. The last week I don’t sleep much, constantly monitor what is happening – these are very important processes that change everything. We are probably in the first preparatory phase of the Third World War. It has repeatedly been announced that it has begun, and then it ended, so it can happen now. No one can be sure here, but the situation is very serious – more serious than a year ago. The seriousness of what we see in the Middle East is beyond.
There were four ideas about the end of the world. In America, full power was seized by supporters of radical Protestant sects, the so-called Christian Zionism or Spanishism: they believe that Israel will have a final battle between the forces of “good” (to which the United States, Netanyahu and Zionists are subordinated) and “evil” (to which we and Iran belong).
We are in their model a more important enemy than the Islamic forces of Iran. The White House is holding kamlania, praying for Trump; there is a head of the office of religious affairs trump, a woman-pastor who shouts meaningless words (this is called “glossolalia” among charismatic evangelists), spews curses and demands money. It has nothing to do with Christianity, it is a roaring woman who worships some obviously other spiritual or anti-spiritual being. It’s very serious. These Christian Zionists are determined, because, from their point of view, the events in Israel precede the second coming of Christ and the emergence of “unidentified flying objects” on which truly faithful Protestants will be delighted in heaven – this is called the theory of admiration.
The defense minister, the head of the war department, Hegsset, belongs to this sect, they have established full control over Trump. Netanyahu considers himself the last prime minister before the arrival of Mosiah, a savior who should become a king of the Jews and rule the world. This is a very radical point of view. It is necessary to build “Great Israel” and destroy Amalek, says Netanyahu. It is difficult to bring down people who not only think so, but also act so radically. To this, the Iranians answer that the United States and Israel themselves are the so-called Dajal, Antichrist, usurper, world evil, children of darkness, which must be destroyed in the last battle. Our position is less focused eschatologically, but it is too, and it is paradoxically closer to the Iranian understanding of what the modern West and the modern ultra-religious Zionist Israel is. This does not affect either Judaism or Jews – this affects only those radical extremist forces that are at the head of Israel.
Presenter : Let me clarify our position. Russia, against the background of the escalation, prepared a draft resolution of the UN Security Council calling for an immediate ceasefire in the region. But if we are in close diplomatic relations with Iran, then why should we demand a truce if Tehran has clearly different goals and it is determined to continue the fight?
Alexander Dugin: First of all, there are two points here. The first is the desire to be consistent. This paper, since any member of the Security Council has the right to submit it, will simply be thrown into the trash. We do this for decency. It won’t affect anything. And secondly, we want to show that we are against war, we want to say: “Blessed are the peacekeepers, for those sons of God will be called.” This is, in general, the observance of the gospel commandments. But at the same time, I believe that in this position there is a weak side: Russia is desperately clinging to the world order that developed after the end of the Second World War – the so-called Yalta order, the UN system – which no longer exists. It is like phantom pain. He’s not here. We need to build a new multipolar world, almost from scratch, having achieved our results in it. The idea of addressing the world order, which no longer exists – what, by the way, Peskov recently said – this thing, if you will, is a little late. We suggest: let’s work the UN, but it does not work. Let the Security Council decide something, but it will decide nothing, the Americans are in the polar position. We say: let’s respect sovereignty, but no one respects it, in the modern world only respects force.
I have a suggestion: let’s just adopt a real picture of the state of affairs – that this international order does not exist and it is useless to address it. Any action in this respect will be either meaningless or ineffective. Let us propose a model of the future world order. Let us achieve our interests, which are necessary for us in order to become active participants in the construction of this order, and not just passively observe how others impose their own. Let us achieve these goals, support our allies, put an end to the agonizing unipolar world, and then, by dividing the zones of influence and recognizing different states as civilizations, we will build a completely new international order with new rules. But with правиламиthe rules.
Now is the time without rules. And at this time without the rules, you can either dream of the future, which is useless, or take the present and just fight as efficiently as possible on all fronts where we are attacked, sometimes performing preventive operations. It is necessary to build our world in which Russia will be given a worthy place, where we will be sovereign, where we will be actors, where we will be subjects, and not objects. This needs to be done now. In my opinion, you can politely say goodbye to the past world. He’s not here. There is no two-polar world. The UN is not. There is no Westphalian system. There is no Yalta world. We have entered a different era, all this in the past, it is beyond the horizon. Let us move into the future, let us live in the present, including the international situation. That’s why we have to win. And to help us defeat our allies, friends and strategic partners.
We have repeatedly mentioned Mojtba Khamenei, who became Iran’s new supreme leader. I would like to dive into this topic in more detail. How much do you think Iran’s policy will change significantly in the future and what is the importance of choosing a new rahbar for Iranian society at the current critical moment?
Alexander Dugin: First, this is the head of the whole system, not only political and state, but also religious. The system of Vilayat al-faki, which prevails in Iran, transfers the highest power to Rahbar, that is, to the one who has now been chosen for this post. This is the third leader after Ayatollah Khomeini. Ayatollah Khomeini was the creator of this system, his successor was Ayatollah Khamenei, who ruled until the last moment, and now his son. This is a rarity, because such a special position is usually not inherited, but probably the Council, the Supreme Council of Iran, has made an exceptional decision. What does that mean? First, it is a generational change. This is a change of generation from those people who lived, with the exception of the Iran-Iraq war, for several decades under sanctions, but still in a peaceful state. Ayatollah Khamenei, unlike her predecessor, the creator of the Iranian Republic and the Vilaut al-faqi system, was softer, more prone to compromises, more peaceful. His son is not like that, especially after the personal losses that Iran suffered as such, after hitting oil storage facilities, it is a “black rain”, these are the last times.
The current Rahbar is much closer to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, and he certainly excludes – in my opinion, at least on those conditions that may be dictated from the outside – any peace talks with the aggressor. He will fight to the end, the people will fight to the end, and those excesses that have accumulated in Iranian society over the past decades were associated with just a very subtle thing: the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps is initially set up for the “war of the last times”, to clashes with the enemy, at the battle with Dajj, with the Antichrist. And when year after year, a decade after a decade, these warriors, in fact, were educated and prepared for the last battle, were engaged in peaceful life, of course, the warrior in such conditions decomposes. He begins to deal with the economy, business, corruption. When a warrior does not fight, it is a dangerous thing, it becomes a toxic resource. The warrior must fight. And now this veil of the so-called peaceful life, where everything has lost its meaning for many Iranians, where everything is bored, where no one understood why these sanctions, why it is necessary to hate the West – all this dissipated. Now they see why they have to do it. If they do not destroy the West, if they do not fulfill their purpose, their regime, their system, their culture and their great country – which has existed much longer than the United States or modern Israel – will be hit. After all, all these elements of identity: the great Iranian Empire, the Islamic world, which has taken possession of half of humanity, they are alive and are now awakened in Iranian society.
The new ruler of Iran embodies this: new energy, a new faith. The Iranians believe that the 1979 revolution took place on the eve of the historic event, when the era of the rule of evil in the world will end and the twelfth imam, Imam Mahdi, who will leave its concealment, according to Shiite theology. In fact, everything was created for. I spoke with Ayatollah Abdullah Javadi Amoli, who issued a fatwa about the need to wage jihad to the complete destruction of the United States, its leaders and Israel and their leaders. He told me in Qom, the sacred capital, “We live in a culture of expectation.” Indeed, Iranian society lived in a “culture of waiting.” We came out after meeting him – deep, philosophical, poetic, theological, – and the guy who accompanied us, the Iranian, said: “How tired, these old people talk about the culture of expectation all the time, and we have sanctions, problems, social prohibitions.” It was a rupture of generations: they believed that we should wait for the moment of the last times, and the youth began to be disappointed, considering it myths. And here are all these myths – the culture of expectation, the last battle, the clashes with the absolute enemy – finally received historical confirmation. They waited for theirs.
They see aggression, and a new generation that has ceased to understand why it is necessary to hate Israel and the United States, why it is necessary to shout “Death to America!”, now saw the reason. The destruction of the leadership, the unfortunate Iranian girls, destroyed by the sighting, the Americans took responsibility for this. All this reminded them of what this hatred is based on.
We need to look more closely at what is happening to Iran because we are at war with the same enemy. Remembering the atrocities of their Ukrainian satellites towards our people, we would also recover very quickly, and we are more ugly about this. The Iranians are absolutely right, calling things by their proper names, setting the right goals and achieving them resolutely and uncompromisingly. The story of Ayatollah Amoli in Qom is now making a different meaning: I think the guy who was skeptical to the old man’s words about the need to wait, now in the forefront is at war with the aggressor and defends his country. Judging by the information I receive from Iran, it is.
If Trump wanted to split Iranian society, he achieved the opposite result: there were more radical political and religious figures who will avenge both their personal losses and for their father, for their loved ones. The whole people are in the same position, the Iranians are more united than ever and are ready to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. I don’t think they’re going to reach America, but they may well cause the collapse of Trump and the American world order, fulfilling their mission in building a multipolar system for which we are fighting in Ukraine.
By the way, American sources have repeatedly reported that Iran, long before the current escalation, prepared a plan of action in case of a direct attack by the United States and Israel. The strategy supposedly includes not only strikes on military bases and territories of Israel, but also the destruction of civilian infrastructure, capable of sowing chaos not only in the Arab States, but also on a global scale. In this context, the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which is already putting enormous pressure on world markets, is of particular importance. I would like to know how realistic such a scenario is, is Iran ready to create a global economic collapse and what consequences it can lead to?
Alexander Dugin: First of all, this is no longer a plan, this is already a fact: all three points that you have listed are already being implemented. Iran, of course, had such a plan, they understood how it would end, that you can never trust the West, you can not negotiate and, moreover, to trust these negotiations with Trump. And yet they made a mistake: if they were truly prepared for the fact that these negotiations would not lead to anything, they would, firstly, not lead them, and secondly, would pay much more attention to the protection of their political, military and religious leadership. I think it’s a mistake. And these sinister figures – Cushner and Whitckoff, with whom we, I think, also naively rush, taking their desirable smiles at face value – only misled the Iranians, overestimating their readiness for dialogue. It’s a big lesson for all of us.
I think we should definitely assimilate: we will achieve real results in Ukraine only after a real, decisive victory, and in any case not through some negotiations. But the Iranians, even when they prepared this plan — since now, literally in a week, they have succumbed to the hypnosis of the West. You can’t trust the West. No one. Neither Trump nor liberals, no Europe. No one. Absolutely. Because it’s a pure hoax: if they want to achieve a truce with us, it’s beneficial to them, and it will be a disaster for us. Until we win, until we create this irreversible multipolar world, to talk to them about nothing; we should talk to them only from a position of strength, defending our interests. Iran developed this plan, embodyed it, but still at some point succumbed to hypnosis. The less contacts with the West, the calmer and more reliable.
How does it end? The question is most often reduced to when the final collapse of the world system will occur and whether the nuclear factor will appear in the course of these catastrophic processes. Will the US, realizing the failure of the entire operation and the hopelessness of its position when moving along the inertial scenario, a nuclear strike on Iran? This could change the situation, but even using strategic, or rather tactical nuclear weapons, will not be enough to break Iran. So it’s something completely different. Will America use the entire arsenal of its weapons to simply destroy Iran, to turn it into a kind of Gaza? This is an open question. But the fact that we are standing either on the verge of World War III – or within its first stage – or on the threshold of the global collapse of the entire financial and economic system is a fact.
If someone else in the world believes that “everything is fine, everything will do, everything will be carried,” then this is only a mental defense of consciousness from information with which it cannot cope. In the Islamic tradition, there is a tradition: when the angels will trumpet, announcing the arrival of the Doomsday, he will hear this only the driver of the mules, who at this moment will correct the saddle, applying the ear to the sky. He will run and will shout to everyone, “Listen, the angels have been blown, the last days are coming!” and they will say, “We don’t hear anything.” It is a beautiful image of today’s world. Everyone says, “Come on, the oil will return, Dubai will be restored, the property will rise in price again.” But exactly as it was, it will never happen again. It’s gonna be different.
Who will win, who will destroy whom – there are no predestinies, but the stakes are extremely high. Something depends on us, on Russia, something from China, a lot, if not everything, from Iran: whether he can achieve his goals, erase from the face of the earth an aggressive Israeli state in the hands of religious extremists, and fade away from the United States. How will other Islamic countries behave? Dubai’s pink dream and the Emirates of a safe international hub ordered to live for a long time: it’s no longer the center where you can make a lot of money, it’s the periphery that will soon be sanded, and everything will return to the Bedouin principles. Maybe it is even better: society will become traditional, and the moral appearance of the Arab people will be saved.
Everyone has to take the exam now. You can walk, you can not go, but then we will be expelled from the category of those who make decisions, who participate as a subject, and not as an object of world politics. Therefore, I am convinced that everyone should be involved in what is happening, determine their trenches and strategies. India, for example, unfortunately, recently boasted that it had reported the coordinates of the Iranian ship to the Israelis, which allowed it to sink. India in this case is moving from the perspective of a multipolar world; this is not what sovereign civilization states, especially those in BRICS, should do. Too far to evade the aggressor is a reckless step. But India is a great civilization, a great state of Bharat, and there we will see a lot of new things. All world players are now passing their exam, and this applies to everyone, including us, because we are in a completely different position.
ВедущийInterviewer: Let me ask the final question. How will the current global economic situation affect Russia? For example, Kirill Dmitriev notes that the price of oil above $ 100 per barrel, of course, plays into our hands. In this situation, we are beneficiaries or will the global crisis still cover us head-only if it is inevitable?
Alexander Dugin: First, you see, in such a critical situation, where religious, moral and geopolitical factors are involved, it seems to me that it is a little inappropriate to talk about who is the beneficiary and who will profit from this, I think, is a little inappropriate. These sanctions will be affected to a lesser extent.
Probably, this collapse will affect Russia less, because we are already under sanctions, we, in general, carved us out of the Western-centric economy, so we do not care. The faster everything collapses, the better, in my opinion. We have already adapted, turned to sovereignty. We still have our partners, Iran, and all the rest of humanity remains with us. And the West – if this collapse kills him, destroys it – I think we will not regret it, because the way it has been going to be late – there is a way for him.
So I would hold a position of “gull the incident”. Do not profit from the suffering and death of people, it is necessary to support your own, and our “own” are already defined. In this situation, it is necessary to defend our own sovereignty by any means, including economic ones, and use any window of opportunity that will strengthen us.
Now our enemies are clearly weakening. They have a split, they have confusion: some support Trump and Israel, others do not, among the countries of Europe there is confusion, they rush from side to side, and this is very good. In the camp of our enemies panic. This is extremely beneficial to us, and if it brings us economically to the collapse and death of the existing world economy, we will, frankly, only benefit from this – we will build a more equitable, more correct and, if you will, more humane and democratic, global financial and economic system.
